Today’s Final Jeopardy – Tuesday, December 5, 2023

16 Comments on "Today’s Final Jeopardy – Tuesday, December 5, 2023"

1. Lisa | December 5, 2023 at 6:23 pm |

   There are now a large number of people who do not watch network TV since the government switched TV signals to digital. This is not from spite because ahead of time they gave us all $20 coupons that were supposed to completely cover the cost of $20 converters, but then before the signals were really going to change, the converter prices went up to a minimum of $40. It is because the digital signals do not cover as large an area as the old analog signals, leaving a lot of people who cannot watch without cable, which is expensive and not always available in very rural areas. I lived within the county that contained all that state capital’s TV stations’ antennas and over-air I could not receive the digital signal for UPN or CW and could only get ABC in winter when the leaves were off the trees! Where I am now (100 miles away, but the same place the grandparents had perfectly fine analog TV signals) the only over-the-air (digital) signals we can get are from the local PBS affiliate, but during some bad weather (and, I think, sunspot activity), that will go to black.

   In the case that one cannot get over-the-air TV signals, if one is lucky enough to have relatively inexpensive internet service, any streaming service that allows you to stream all TV networks live is very expensive. So, saying not everyone can view streaming shows is true but not that different nowadays than saying not everyone can watch network TV shows.

   In the past people would sometimes take a superior air saying they are unfamiliar with shows and actors because “they never watch TV”. Nowadays a similar statement would be “I never read clickbait even if it is just about TV shows and actors (rather than just ignoring politics and conspiracy theories)”. On the other hand, I am not sure how they avoid seeing the online ads for both Network and Streaming TV shows.

2. Robert J. Fawkes | December 5, 2023 at 6:53 pm |

   I don’t see anything unfair about including TV shows that are on streaming services. There are many different categories on Jeopardy! that aren’t enjoyed universally. Do you realize there are some people who never go to an opera as well as some who never watch sports? It is also interesting to note that there are even dozens of people who don’t live in the United States as well as a few people who have never been to Europe.

3. Gary | December 5, 2023 at 8:10 pm |

   I subscribe to Hulu but have watched only movies. I wouldn’t have guessed FJ! correctly in a hundred years.

4. Bruce | December 5, 2023 at 9:52 pm |

   I think it was a gimcrack clue, just hope it’s not a precursor to “all streaming all the time” questions. Moving on.

   • Bruce | December 5, 2023 at 10:06 pm |

     My biggest issue, though, was not that it was not the “streaming” thing, it was the wording of the clue: The answer called for a “title locale.” To me, “building” is Not a “title locale.” The Savoy, the Hilton, MOMA, Tiffany’s, etc., are potential “title locales,” but a generic term like “building” is most definitely not.

     • Eric | December 5, 2023 at 10:43 pm |

       I had a similar issue. The wording indicated to me that there was a a proper name in the title that was different from the real name of filming location.

       That said, the fact that all three contestants weren’t fazed makes me think this is more of a me problem.

       • Lisa | December 6, 2023 at 4:06 am |

         The series’ building’s name is the Arconia” and they SAY it ALL THE TIME in the episodes (especially in the first two seasons), so I think the “important facts” in the clue were its real name and NYC location as the conglomeration of facts beyond “title location” clearly indicated they were referring to a building.

         And for a further comment concerning people having a chance to know about it if they don’t pay for Hulu, less than 18 months ago the New York Times published an interesting article about the Belnord and its history. (Some of the characters and circumstances, other than murders, in this series relate pretty directly to actual past residents’ personalities, etc.)

     • Lisa | December 6, 2023 at 3:53 am |

       I also kind of agree with you concerning an actual building name/location (like 1600 Pennsylvania Ave or the Boston Airport Marriott), but it seems that often the more vague part of a clue is, the more REALLY OBVIOUS the response would be had they not been vague, so you just have to expect that in Jeopardy!

5. Ben | December 5, 2023 at 10:51 pm |

   The only thing I thought was unfair about the final was the length of it. If you don’t have it right away, they’re asking for a Harriet Tubma situation.

   • Lisa | December 6, 2023 at 3:42 am |

     Good point and smooth delivery.

6. Jeff | December 5, 2023 at 10:57 pm |

   I wasn’t going to get this in a million years and I’m good with that. I subscribe to 2 pay for streaming services. ESPN+ and NFL+. So if it’s not streaming on those or it’s not Better Call Saul or Jeopardy, I am likely to be lost. All good! I didn’t expect a runaway today. It’s always kind of cool to see an “upset” when the 1 day champ takes down the 2 day champs.

   On to Quarterfinal #6 tomorrow. 🙂

7. Kev | December 6, 2023 at 12:27 am |

   The clue about the assassination attempt on John Paul II is wrong. It occurred on May 13 in the Vatican. Not in Portugal. It was the feast of Our Lady of Fatima but wasn’t in Fatima. How does Jeopardy make such mistake.

   • Andy Saunders | December 6, 2023 at 8:26 am |

     Thanks for your comment. However:

     https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/pope-john-paul-injured-in-1982-knife-attack-says-aide-1.694776

     “The late Pope John Paul II was wounded in a 1982 knife attack a year after an assassination attempt, but kept the injury secret, a top aide to the pontiff has revealed in a new documentary film. The attack occurred on May 12, 1982, when Juan Fernandez Krohn lunged at John Paul with a bayonet during a ceremony in the shrine of Fatima in Portugal. John Paul went to the shrine to give thanks for surviving a gunshot wound from Turkish gunman Mehmet Ali Agca in St. Peter’s Square on May 13, 1981.”

     It appears as though you conflated the two different attacks. Interestingly, it is possible to attempt assassination on someone more than once.

     I should also remind you of this part of the Site Comment Policy:

     “It’s very rare for the show to make mistakes—it’s much more likely that you as a viewer either misunderstood the clue, or misremembered the requisite knowledge. We all watch Jeopardy! to learn—use the clue as a learning experience instead of assuming that you already know everything.”

     • Kev | December 6, 2023 at 9:11 am |

       Thanks for the correction. I tried to research a separate assassination attempt but couldn’t find anything before making the post. I do find it interesting that they’d have a clue about something that was kept so secret for more than 25 years and may not be within general knowledge of a lot of people.

       • Andy Saunders | December 6, 2023 at 9:16 am |

         Kev:

         This was not a secret. It was above-the-fold front page news across America the next day. https://www.newspapers.com/article/honolulu-star-bulletin/136367904/

8. Dan | December 6, 2023 at 1:38 pm |

   I agree “locale” is not quite the right term in the FJ clue. Location is 86th and Broadway, and locale really depends on context but I would consider it here to be Upper West Side. The most precise term would be “building,” but that’s too much of a giveaway. This is another example of trying to get the response by figuring out what word or phrase the writers appear to be avoiding.
   After six straight correct FJ gets, I had no clue on this one even though I actually watched the first episode a while back.